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Well your turning the hostility around, reversing the direction of the hostility.  If anything the hostility is originating from Islam and we seem to be the targets.  My intended focus was towards the incidences that have been reported by reputable sources not some tabloid rag.  I think that a majority of people globally feel threatened by the increase in Muslim populations, especially considering all the problems arising from their presence.  I didn't think much of it when they had rioting in Paris several years back but now I see a continuing trend towards more serious violent acts aimed at killing innocent people, as per the examples I have cited.  How many more Hasans are hiding behind the shroud of peace and how many more teenagers are out their waiting for the opportunity to strike?  We are a multi cultural country but the only culture that seems to be causing concern is that of the Muslims.  Pat has expended much energy on pointing out the various faiths within faiths which actually validates my point that religion segments societies and has been throughout history the root of many wars and atrocities still to this day.  I'm not worried about Irish people nor German, Italian, Polish, French and dozens of others.  I'm worried about some Hasan copy cat opening fire on a group of people or a group of Muslim teenagers committing some heinous act that will take the lives of innocent people.  As I pointed out to Justin, this is not something that just popped up out of nowhere, but has been happening for quite sometime and is still happening but is getting more frequent and insidious in nature. I don't think God intended for us to come up with a slew of religious figures to believe in nor multi-Gods to worship. I don't even know if we are supposed to worship anything.  Why can't we just live and enjoy? I do own the movie Gran Torino and I don't think that it applies to what I talking about.  I think it is natural for people to develop fear of a specific race/culture when that race/culture is out and about killing people, its no different than the fear arising from a serial killer on the loose, everyone becomes suspect.  Your stance reminds me of the political correctness position taken on racial profiling and as a result my 87 year old mother had to undergo scrutiny at the airport, removing her jacket for inspection.  Its not age old grannies that are hijacking planes and carrying out suicide missions but it is the ____________ people.  Simply fill in the blank for a reality check. Picture this, your are on an elevator, the other passengers consist of two old ladies, a mom holding a baby and three children aged 3, 5 and 7,  an old man with a cane and two men in the corner each with an attache case and speaking any Islamic language.  Ok, who are you worried about?   Me? I wouldn't even get on the elevator if I heard them talking.  Sorry but that is that way it is and it is getting worse.  This is a real situation, but I didn't cause it, they did. Your worry about people speaking an Islamic language speaks volumes.  English is an Islamic language.  That is, there are Muslims who speak it.  Let me put it in Christian speak for you (English is also a Christian language!!): And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?  That quote, of Jesus, was not originally spoken in English, obviously. The point is that when you said Islamic language , I really don't think you have any ground to stand on.  Is that Indonesian, Persian, Arabic, Urdu, Pashtun, Albanian, what?  There is no single language that is Islamic.  The Qur'an was written in Arabic, but would you know, by listening, the difference between two native Arabic speakers and two native Aramaic speakers?  Either could be Christian.  The statement was blatanly racist, borne out of fear, cast over you by a right-wing, neo-con, fundamentalist Christian media ploy, and you've fallen
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Well your turning the hostility around, reversing the direction of the hostility.  If anything the hostility is originating from Islam and we seem to be the targets.  My intended focus was towards the incidences that have been reported by reputable sources not some tabloid rag.  I think that a majority of people globally feel threatened by the increase in Muslim populations, especially considering all the problems arising from their presence.  I didn't think much of it when they had rioting in Paris several years back but now I see a continuing trend towards more serious violent acts aimed at killing innocent people, as per the examples I have cited.  How many more Hasans are hiding behind the shroud of peace and how many more teenagers are out their waiting for the opportunity to strike?  We are a multi cultural country but the only culture that seems to be causing concern is that of the Muslims.  Pat has expended much energy on pointing out the various faiths within faiths which actually validates my point that religion segments societies and has been throughout history the root of many wars and atrocities still to this day.  I'm not worried about Irish people nor German, Italian, Polish, French and dozens of others.  I'm worried about some Hasan copy cat opening fire on a group of people or a group of Muslim teenagers committing some heinous act that will take the lives of innocent people.  As I pointed out to Justin, this is not something that just popped up out of nowhere, but has been happening for quite sometime and is still happening but is getting more frequent and insidious in nature. I don't think God intended for us to come up with a slew of religious figures to believe in nor multi-Gods to worship. I don't even know if we are supposed to worship anything.  Why can't we just live and enjoy? I do own the movie Gran Torino and I don't think that it applies to what I talking about.  I think it is natural for people to develop fear of a specific race/culture when that race/culture is out and about killing people, its no different than the fear arising from a serial killer on the loose, everyone becomes suspect.  Your stance reminds me of the political correctness position taken on racial profiling and as a result my 87 year old mother had to undergo scrutiny at the airport, removing her jacket for inspection.  Its not age old grannies that are hijacking planes and carrying out suicide missions but it is the ____________ people.  Simply fill in the blank for a reality check. Picture this, your are on an elevator, the other passengers consist of two old ladies, a mom holding a baby and three children aged 3, 5 and 7,  an old man with a cane and two men in the corner each with an attache case and speaking any Islamic language.  Ok, who are you worried about?   Me? I wouldn't even get on the elevator if I heard them talking.  Sorry but that is that way it is and it is getting worse.  This is a real situation, but I didn't cause it, they did. Your worry about people speaking an Islamic language speaks volumes.  English is an Islamic language.  That is, there are Muslims who speak it.  Let me put it in Christian speak for you (English is also a Christian language!!): And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?  That quote, of Jesus, was not originally spoken in English, obviously. The point is that when you said Islamic language , I really don't think you have any ground to stand on.
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I think that Justin's read on Slips question was accurate, in that it points to the racial hysteria that is now all around us, inflamed by mainstream media and ignorance. << Molly If racial hysteria is all around us it is because people are under a more consistent awareness of the fact that a serious threat exists. We can't ignore the reality of threat and attack because many or a
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I don't think it is off _base_ at all. We are talking about race in the current definition: a class or kind of individuals with common characteristics, interests, appearance, or habits as if derived from a common ancestor. Racism in the US is defined by targeted group, and currently that group is Muslim.  Clint Eastwood's movie Gran Torino did a good job of showing the problem in Dearborn, MI, although the movie portrayed the group as a group from Southeast Asia that immigrated from several different countries.  In truth, the group in Dearborn that is currently the target of racial hostility is Muslim, and all Middle Eastern immigrants or those who look like them are
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Well your turning the hostility around, reversing the direction of the hostility.  If anything the hostility is originating from Islam and we seem to be the targets.  My intended focus was towards the incidences that have been reported by reputable sources not some tabloid rag.  I think that a majority of people globally feel threatened by the increase in Muslim populations, especially considering all the problems arising from their presence.  I didn't think much of it when they had rioting in Paris several years back but now I see a continuing trend towards more serious violent acts aimed at killing innocent people, as per the examples I have cited.  How many more Hasans are hiding behind the shroud of peace and how many more teenagers are out their waiting for the opportunity to strike?  We are a multi cultural country but the only culture that seems to be causing concern is that of the Muslims.  Pat has expended much energy on pointing out the various faiths within faiths which actually validates my point that religion segments societies and has been throughout history the root of many wars and atrocities still to this day.  I'm not worried about Irish people nor German, Italian, Polish, French and dozens of others.  I'm worried about some Hasan copy cat opening fire on a group of people or a group of Muslim teenagers committing some heinous act that will take the lives of innocent people.  As I pointed out to Justin, this is not something that just popped up out of nowhere, but has been happening for quite sometime and is still happening but is getting more frequent and insidious in nature. I don't think God intended for us to come up with a slew of religious figures to believe in nor multi-Gods to worship. I don't even know if we are supposed to worship anything.  Why can't we just live and enjoy? I do own the movie Gran Torino and I don't think that it applies to what I talking about.  I think it is natural for people to develop fear of a specific race/culture when that race/culture is out and about killing people, its no different than the fear arising from a serial killer on the loose, everyone becomes suspect.  Your stance reminds me of the political correctness position taken on racial profiling and as a result my 87 year old mother had to undergo scrutiny at the airport, removing her jacket for inspection.  Its not age old grannies that are hijacking planes and carrying out suicide missions but it is the ____________ people.  Simply fill in the blank for a reality check. Picture this, your are on an elevator, the other passengers consist of two old ladies, a mom holding a baby and three children aged 3, 5 and 7,  an old man with a cane and two men in the corner each with an attache case and speaking any Islamic language.  Ok, who are you worried about?   Me? I wouldn't even get on the elevator if I heard them talking.  Sorry but that is that way it is and it is getting worse.  This is a real situation, but I didn't cause it, they did. Your worry about people speaking an Islamic language speaks volumes.  English is an Islamic language.  That is, there are Muslims who speak it.  Let me put it in Christian speak for you (English is also a Christian language!!): And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?  That quote, of Jesus, was not originally spoken in English, obviously. The point is that when you said Islamic language , I really don't think you have any ground to stand on.  Is that Indonesian, Persian, Arabic, Urdu, Pashtun, Albanian, what?  There is no single language that is Islamic.  The Qur'an was written in Arabic, but would you know, by listening, the difference between two native Arabic speakers and two native Aramaic speakers?  Either could be Christian.  The statement was blatanly racist, borne out of fear, cast over you by a right-wing, neo-con, fundamentalist Christian
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Well your turning the hostility around, reversing the direction of the hostility.  If anything the hostility is originating from Islam and we seem to be the targets.  My intended focus was towards the incidences that have been reported by reputable sources not some tabloid rag.  I think that a majority of people globally feel threatened by the increase in Muslim populations, especially considering all the problems arising from their presence.  I didn't think much of it when they had rioting in Paris several years back but now I see a continuing trend towards more serious violent acts aimed at killing innocent people, as per the examples I have cited.  How many more Hasans are hiding behind the shroud of peace and how many more teenagers are out their waiting for the opportunity to strike?  We are a multi cultural country but the only culture that seems to be causing concern is that of the Muslims.  Pat has expended much energy on pointing out the various faiths within faiths which actually validates my point that religion segments societies and has been throughout history the root of many wars and atrocities still to this day.  I'm not worried about Irish people nor German, Italian, Polish, French and dozens of others.  I'm worried about some Hasan copy cat opening fire on a group of people or a group of Muslim teenagers committing some heinous act that will
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