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points to the racial hysteria that is now all around us, inflamed by mainstream media and ignorance. << Molly If racial hysteria is all around us it is because people are under a more consistent awareness of the fact that a serious threat exists. We can't ignore the reality of threat and attack because many or a majority are peaceful. I don't think I've participated in hate because I asked that question and I know that Justin's take on it was reactionary and emotionally charged, which I made clear in my replies. Of course you both stand on the same religious platform so I can understand your position. On Dec 16, 7:47 am, Molly <
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wrote: I think that Justin's read on Slips question was accurate, in that it points to the racial hysteria that is now all around us, inflamed by mainstream media and ignorance. In the US, as generations go on, so does the racism, but the targeted race changes. During my grandparents time, the Irish were targets. Now, because Islam is not really a race, but a religion, anyone with medium dark skin is a target, which could be Eastern European, Indian, Middle Eastern parts of the globe and include, in truth, several different races and religions that include a particular physical look. It is our tendency to identify with groups, and feel ourselves against others and other groups that get in our way in significant but irrational ways. My step daughter dates a guy who immigrated from Armenia at the age of 7. He had someone call him an Arab with distain the other day. Last I checked, Saudi Arabia and the US were allies. Even a relatively innocuous statement from Gabby against me and for someone else will interrupt cohesion in the group. In terms of self, moving against is always looking away from self. It is human nature none the less. Wrap that up with a big coat of fear - fear of the future, fear of war, fear of attack, fear of economic disaster, fear that I won't be able to keep my stuff or have more stuff or hang on to my irrational fear and anger that allows me to feel in the absence of love, well, you are perfect fodder for herd mentality and those who prey on it. Even that is simply a reflection of changing humanity. It may be that what we are witnessing is really the death throes of racism in a global society. On Dec 16, 7:47 am, Pat <
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wrote: Buzzer goes off, I'm not an Atheist, never claimed to be one, being non religious is not Atheism. What I believe God is may be different from others beliefs. Yes for sure I think the world would be much better without politics and many other things including wealth, an unnecessary state of being. Your interpretations are too micro. I'm not picking on religion per se but it is within the context of this thread, in case you haven't noticed, ie; Muslims um Religion um Islam um Religion um Jihad um Religion. {snicker!} Now my buzzer goes off. Which FORM of Islam? Not all Muslims are practicing, per se, and not all forms of Islam (for those who ARE practicing) are the same. Sunni vs. Shi'a is a big divide, for one, and ther eare four major 'schools of though' when it comes to deriving laws (Shari'a) from the Qur'an (_script_ure), ahadith (sayings of the Prophet) and Sunna (traditions of/about the Prophet). The you mention jihad. Which one? The lesser (more violent and outward fight) or the greater (the less violent and more inner struggle)? All these terms are not equal to one another. Much less are they even congruent. Have you looked at Islamic economics? If implemented well (and, of course, that's a huge caveat), there are no 'wealthy', as they would be charitable and share their excesses with those who have needs. Of course, this is one of the big areas where Islam and Western capitalism collide. Western capitalism allows for the stinking rich
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We should also note, Molly, that racism in the past, as you pointed out against the Irish in your mothers time is not really relevant. This is not a racist issue, it's about attacks that kill people by a specific religious group. I'm sure the Irish were not setting off bombs, shooting people, joining the army and killing their fellow soldiers, nor did any other immigration group. Racism is entirely off _base_. On Dec 16, 1:17 pm, Slip Disc <
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wrote: I think that Justin's read on Slips question was accurate, in that it points to the racial hysteria that is now all around us, inflamed by mainstream media and ignorance. << Molly If racial hysteria is all around us it is because people are under a more consistent awareness of the fact that a serious threat exists. We can't ignore the reality of threat and attack because many or a majority are peaceful. I don't think I've participated in hate because I asked that question and I know that Justin's take on it was reactionary and emotionally charged, which I made clear in my replies. Of course you both stand on the same religious platform so I can understand your position. On Dec 16, 7:47 am, Molly <
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wrote: I think that Justin's read on Slips question was accurate, in that it points to the racial hysteria that is now all around us, inflamed by mainstream media and ignorance. In the US, as generations go on, so does the racism, but the targeted race changes. During my grandparents time, the Irish were targets. Now, because Islam is not really a race, but a religion, anyone with medium dark skin is a target, which could be Eastern European, Indian, Middle Eastern parts of the globe and include, in truth, several different races and religions that include a particular physical look. It is our tendency to identify with groups, and feel ourselves against others and other groups that get in our way in significant but irrational ways. My step daughter dates a guy who immigrated from Armenia at the age of 7. He had someone call him an Arab with distain the other day. Last I checked, Saudi Arabia and the US were allies. Even a relatively innocuous statement from Gabby against me and for someone else will interrupt cohesion in the group. In terms of self, moving against is always looking away from self. It is human nature none the less. Wrap that up with a big coat of fear - fear of the future, fear of war, fear of attack, fear of economic disaster, fear that I won't be able to keep my stuff or have more stuff or hang on to my irrational fear and anger that allows me to feel in the absence of love, well, you are perfect fodder for herd mentality and those who prey on it. Even that is simply a reflection of changing humanity. It may be that what we are witnessing is really the death throes of racism in a global society. On Dec 16, 7:47 am, Pat <
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out against the Irish in your mothers time is not really relevant. This is not a racist issue, it's about attacks that kill people by a specific religious group. I'm sure the Irish were not setting off bombs, shooting people, joining the army and killing their fellow soldiers, nor did any other immigration group. Racism is entirely off _base_. On Dec 16, 1:17 pm, Slip Disc <
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wrote: I think that Justin's read on Slips question was accurate, in that it points to the racial hysteria that is now all around us, inflamed by mainstream media and ignorance. << Molly If racial hysteria is all around us it is because people are under a more consistent awareness of the fact that a serious threat exists. We can't ignore the reality of threat and attack because many or a majority are peaceful. I don't think I've participated in hate because I asked that question and I know that Justin's take on it was reactionary and emotionally charged, which I made clear in my replies. Of course you both stand on the same religious platform so I can understand your position. On Dec 16, 7:47 am, Molly <
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wrote: I think that Justin's read on Slips question was accurate, in that it points to the racial hysteria that is now all around us, inflamed by mainstream media and ignorance. In the US, as generations go on, so does the racism, but the targeted race changes. During my grandparents time, the Irish were targets. Now, because Islam is not really a race, but a religion, anyone with medium dark skin is a target, which could be Eastern European, Indian, Middle Eastern parts of the globe and include, in truth, several different races and religions that include a particular physical look. It is our tendency to identify with groups, and feel ourselves against others and other groups that get in our way in significant but irrational ways. My step daughter dates a guy who immigrated from Armenia at the age of 7. He had someone call him an Arab with distain the other day. Last I checked, Saudi Arabia and the US were allies. Even a relatively innocuous statement from Gabby against me and for someone else will interrupt cohesion in the group. In terms of self, moving against is always looking away from self. It is human nature none the less. Wrap that up with a big coat of fear - fear of the future, fear of war, fear of attack, fear of economic disaster, fear that I won't be able to keep my stuff or have more stuff or hang on to my irrational fear and anger that allows me to feel in the absence of love, well, you are perfect fodder for herd mentality and those who prey on it. Even that is simply a reflection of changing humanity. It may be that what we are witnessing is really the death throes of racism in a global society. On Dec 16, 7:47 am, Pat <
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current definition: a class or kind of individuals with common characteristics, interests, appearance, or habits as if derived from a common ancestor. Racism in the US is defined by targeted group, and currently that group is Muslim. Clint Eastwood's movie Gran Torino did a good job of showing the problem in Dearborn, MI, although the movie portrayed the group as a group from Southeast Asia that immigrated from several different countries. In truth, the group in Dearborn that is currently the target of racial hostility is Muslim, and all Middle Eastern immigrants or those who look like them are carried along. But you probably know that. On Dec 16, 3:24 pm, Slip Disc <
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wrote: We should also note, Molly, that racism in the past, as you pointed out against the Irish in your mothers time is not really relevant. This is not a racist issue, it's about attacks that kill people by a specific religious group. I'm sure the Irish were not setting off bombs, shooting people, joining the army and killing their fellow soldiers, nor did any other immigration group. Racism is entirely off _base_. On Dec 16, 1:17 pm, Slip Disc <
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wrote: I think that Justin's read on Slips question was accurate, in that it points to the racial hysteria that is now all around us, inflamed by mainstream media and ignorance. << Molly If racial hysteria is all around us it is because people are under a more consistent awareness of the fact that a serious threat exists. We can't ignore the reality of threat and attack because many or a majority are peaceful. I don't think I've participated in hate because I asked that question and I know that Justin's take on it was reactionary and emotionally charged, which I made clear in my replies. Of course you both stand on the same religious platform so I can understand your position. On Dec 16, 7:47 am, Molly <
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wrote: I think that Justin's read on Slips question was accurate, in that it points to the racial hysteria that is now all around us, inflamed by mainstream media and ignorance. In the US, as generations go on, so does the racism, but the targeted race changes. During my grandparents time, the Irish were targets. Now, because Islam is not really a race, but a religion, anyone with medium dark skin is a target, which could be Eastern European, Indian, Middle Eastern parts of the globe and include, in truth, several different races and religions that include a particular physical look. It is our tendency to identify with groups, and feel ourselves against others and other groups that get in our way in significant but irrational ways. My step daughter dates a guy who immigrated from Armenia at the age of 7. He had someone call him an Arab with distain the other day. Last I checked, Saudi Arabia and the US were allies. Even a relatively innocuous statement from Gabby against me and for someone else will interrupt cohesion in the group. In terms of self, moving against is always looking away from self. It is human nature none the less. Wrap that up with a big coat of fear - fear of the future, fear of war, fear of attack, fear of economic disaster, fear that I won't be able to keep my stuff or have more stuff or hang on to my irrational fear and anger that allows me to feel in the absence of love, well, you are perfect fodder for herd mentality and those who prey on it. Even that is simply a reflection of changing humanity. It may be that what we are witnessing is really the death throes of racism in a global society. On Dec 16, 7:47 am, Pat <
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