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The US: a) appears to have a greater propensity to kill (7.3 : 1.4) b) greater freedom to acquire  and own legally. (see volumes above) c) uses guns as the preferred means of murder    (68% : 8%) Thus there would appear to be, prima facie, a connection between the propensity to kill, the availability of guns and the use of gun as a preferred murder tool. Sorry, but the data shown does not support your conclusion because there is nothing here that shows the reason for the difference is guns, so without support for this conclusion it is but your unsupported opinion of why this difference exists. Putting words in my mouth again, Scout.   I have made no comment about the differences in US and UK gun control laws, nor given any opinion why the difference exists. However you would agree that a difference of some kind does exist? If so, the questions that now need answering are: a) does the availability of guns increase/decrease/ or have no effect on the propensity to kill ? b) does the availability of guns impact the choice of homicide weapon? What do you think?
 
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The statistics did *not* attempt to address gun control .  By your subjectively inserting the gun control aspect you are providing a good example of my absence of truth argument above . I'm sorry, I though gun control was what led to the differences in availablity of guns between our nations. Are you refuting that at this time? How do you explain there are more guns per head of population in the US (mixture of control/no control) and per head of population in England and Wales (reasonably strict gun control)  ?
 
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In article < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , Richard Popkin < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it writes one more tidbit, folks.  john lott's work is not speculation, it's statistics. the armed populace idea works. If you believe statistics..... Don't believe anyone oranything Chicken Little, after all you can't trust anyone and everyone's out to get you, except the govt of course. Now back under the bed.
 
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the validity of the example. I may have a PDF file around here somewhere of the
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This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it (John) wrote in <0rdv$ This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it : In article < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , Richard Popkin < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it writes one more tidbit, folks.  john lott's work is not speculation, it's statistics. the armed populace idea works. If you believe statistics..... Don't believe anyone oranything Chicken Little, after all you can't trust anyone and everyone's out to get you, except the govt of course. Now back under the bed. Errrr no, Melissa, inappropriate suggestion that you might make to your compatriots!.   You recall I suggested that perhaps one of the reasons you feel you need guns as defence is that *you* do not trust *either* the US government *or* your fellow Americans.
 
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