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they bring out the same emotions in me. both are about obsession both ridiculous and eternal.
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2. David floats, inert but rotating and twisting, to the bottom of the ocean
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David in the reconstructed/virtual room; like Dave Bowman's alien hotel suite? Yes! There are others that you and the fellow you were responding to wrote that have some bearing, but it's my humble opinion that a good half are really stretching to make a connection. For instance, I can't think of any real evidence that David's suicide attempt has a correlation to Alex's suicide attempt, other than the simple fact that they were both suicide attempts. At that point, besides that observation, I don't think it can be said to be a nod to Kubrick. (It could be a nod to any movie with someone jumping to kill himself.) When there are other nods that are very significant, why bother trying to come up with a great volume of nods? Tansal P.S. I was really worried about the music to A.I. (and about the film itself too) _base_d on the trailer, but I found the score to the actual movie to be very thoughtfully done, and was impressed with its sensitivity and range. It certainly pays homage to Ligeti and Khachaturian, among others.
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to be very thoughtfully done, and was impressed with its sensitivity and range. It certainly pays homage to Ligeti and Khachaturian, among others. Likewise - John Williams' best score? Dave C
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One thing I'm very intrigued by in Kubrick's films, is just how many of these cross-references *are* built in - and I'd therefore like to know whether the examples I'm quoting (which *I'm* convinced by) are in because they were put in by Spielberg as homages, or are there because they were already in place in Kubrick's pre-pro materials? There are some quite extraordinary cross-refs in Kubrick's films - some of these are very obvious: James Mason: Are you Quilty Peter Sellars: No, I'm Spartacus, have you come to free the slaves or something - some are well-known and well-documented e.g. CRM-114 / serum-114 - but they've often very subtle, at the level of nothing more than visual/verbal tropes, but which are *so* wierd that they've *got* to be deliberate! Things like the Alex/David suicidal jump certainly work at that level - they don't necessarily have to connect profoundly in the story. To give you the strangest example in Kubrick that I've yet noticed: In 'Lolita' , just before Quilty is shot, he says: I've got some nice friends who could come and keep you company -you could use them as pieces of furniture - In 'Eyes Wide Shut', in the orgy sequence, we see (at least if we're not in the US, I guess), one of the copulating couples, supported by a fully dressed man on all fours acting as a table! I'm convinced that SK must have either built in some lines or images in the hope that he could use them later, or looked back over previous films looking for elements he could use, to set up such visual/verbal/auditory puns, as a sort of game for himself. I don't think these are wishful thinking in the viewer, and I doubt that they were unconscious choices by SK. I know that when he was challenged as to whether the composition around the dying Cowboy with the central upright wall in FMJ deliberately mimicked the apes around the monolith in 2001 he denied it - but we know SK wasn't above a bit of subterfuge (eg the story of how he acquired the Mitchell cameras), and that he also believed in don't explain , and said still fooling them This is a very intelligent rebuttal Dave, and I enjoyed reading it very much. Though I'm willing to rethink the seriousness of some of these references, I still think...well...two things. One is that perhaps this is just more amusing to us as viewers to make connections that are impossible for us to truly know if they were intentional or not. Another is that except in the most significant instances, they bear little relevance to a deep understanding of the film. So I think they're very fun to think about, consider, bounce around in one's head, go gee ya think? while examining one more or other, but I also think one ought to be more discriminatory in what one finally decides is a real reference of substance. How's that? :o) Tansal
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Mecha unmasked then told to get undressed; like Dr Bill in EWS Car shot from behind; like the steadicam of Danny's trike in The Shining David _frame_d at the table by the circular light; like the war room light in Dr Strangelove Martin - malevolent figure in a wheelchair; Lord Lyndon, Mr Alexander, Dr Strangelove - and like DS, he gets up (using calipers) and walks. David abandoned in the wood, _frame_d in the oval rear view wing mirror of the car as it drives off; like Frank Poole floating in space viewed through the pod window ( - and also references the TRex in the wing mirror in Jurassic Park!) Gigolo Joe's dances; echo Alex kicking Mr Alexander in ACO, (and Gene Kelly's stepping on and off the kerb in Singing in the Rain ) The R Lee Ermey mecha in the cage. The Chris Rock mecha's face hitting the cage bars; copies the framing of Woody Strode's face between the bars when we first see him from Kirk Douglas POV at the gladiator school in Spartacus ! The shot of all the teens crowded into the car approaching Rouge City; Alex's Droogs crammed into their car driving down the country lane. David finding all the copies of himself suspended round the room; echoes the crucified slaves at the end of Spartacus? and the mannekins of the fight sequence at the end of Killer's Kiss? Walking forward into the mask of the head of another copy of himself, so we see his eyes through the eyes of the mask; like the closeups of Dr Bill in his mask in EWS. David's jump off the balcony; Alex's suicide attempt The advanced Mecha craft flying into the excavation; reminicent of the Stargate? David in the amphicopter, excavated from the ice; reminicent of the TMA-1 excavation? David in the reconstructed/virtual room; like Dave Bowman's alien hotel suite? These are the others that struck me, from memory, in addition to the ones you've mentioned. I'm willing to bet there are lots of others too (There are also lots of Spielberg cross refs.) - I really cannot wait for my AI DVD to arrive!
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